Comments on: on new books for Christmas

By: Andy Efting

Andy Efting — Fri, 29 Dec 2006 14:36:00 +0000

Yes, I have him as well as a few others, including Garland’s commentary in the BECNT series. I’ll try to chime in if I can.

By: Don Johnson

Don Johnson — Thu, 28 Dec 2006 16:58:00 +0000

Andy, thanks for the tip on Thiselton. Do you have it? When I get going on Fee's view of 8-10, I hope you can chime in on his points.

Regards,
Don Johnson
Jer 33.3

By: Andy Efting

Andy Efting — Wed, 27 Dec 2006 22:35:00 +0000

Speaking of thoroughness, Thiselton’s treatment of 1 Corinthians is 1446 pages, of which 190 are devoted to chapters 8-10. I have not read it enough to know if it is hekpful, but it is exhaustive!

By: Don Johnson

Don Johnson — Wed, 27 Dec 2006 17:22:00 +0000

Hi Andy and Chris

Yes, I had been holding off on Fee as well. I have to say I have never seen a more thorough commentary though. It really is massive, I have read all of chapter 8 (on the ferry I have had a good deal of time lately!) and it is impressive. It is especially impressive since Fee agrees with me on ch 8-10. Dr. Charles Smith who used to teach at BJU [and ended up at Masters] once said in a class that the definition of a scholar is "somebody who agrees with me."

I don't think I have heard Minnick on 1 cor 8-10 in its entirety. I missed it somehow, but did manage to download five of the messages from Ch 10. In some ways, I think there is no more critical set of chapters (plus perhaps Rm 14) for us to understand in relating to our culture. I want to do some more writing in this area.

And, yes, Chris, I was pleasantly surprised myself. I am about a third of the way through the 9 marks book, but have not really been impressed. I didn't really like the introduction of the Deliberate Church either, a few of my pet peeves were stirred up. But I noted some excellent suggestions for ministry in the first few chapters, including the one about praying through the church directory that you had mentioned earlier. I hope to note here a few of these as we go, when I have some time.

This is our last time having all the kids home as single people. It's a life changing moment, so we are trying to cram as much time as possible into the experience. Of course, we do have to sleep and we do have to keep up with ministry responsibilities, but after this week, life will change forever for us.

Regards,
Don Johnson
Jer 33.3

By: Chris Anderson

Chris Anderson — Wed, 27 Dec 2006 15:40:00 +0000

"...there are some solid practical ideas for biblical pastoral leadership and ministry. I am looking forward to reading more in the next few weeks."

What an astounding admission, Don. :-)

By: aefting

aefting — Wed, 27 Dec 2006 12:18:00 +0000

Don,

I have held off on buying Fee on 1 Corinthians for the very reasons you listed. One of these days I will probably break down and get it, though. It's just hard to pull the trigger when you KNOW that large sections are going to be a waste. And I agree with you about the endnote/footnote deal -- I can't stand endnotes.

Did you happen to listen to Minnick's series on 1Cor 8-10 that he did a year or so ago? I thought that was a very helpful series on those chapters.