I think you are being fair in this. Dave Doran is much clearer in this and much, much clearer than Mark Minnick was in his interview. You were looking for something that was very clear when it was very public. I understand. In fairness to Dave Doran, he wrote a stiffer separation stand to the TG4 guys in some online publication. I just don’t understand what difference it makes with those guys. There is some real heavy-duty problems with them that goes beyond whether they even separate from those who won’t separate based on the gospel. Those should be mentioned much more.