Comments on: a question regarding a hymn https://oxgoad.ca/2009/03/22/a-question-regarding-a-hymn/ fundamentalism by blunt instrument Tue, 06 Nov 2012 07:52:29 +0000 hourly 1 By: ox https://oxgoad.ca/2009/03/22/a-question-regarding-a-hymn/comment-page-1/#comment-26646 Tue, 06 Nov 2012 07:52:29 +0000 http://oxgoad.ca/2009/03/22/a-question-regarding-a-hymn/#comment-26646 In reply to KittyF.

Hello KittyF

Thanks for the comment. I am sorry I was so slow approving it. I thought WordPress would e-mail it to me automatically, but I don’t recall seeing this one. So?? My apologies for the delay.

I think you are correct on the “complete in thee” part. Certainly we are complete in Christ. There is nothing we can add to our salvation. However, at the time I wrote, I was wondering about the line “no more shall sin”. I have since studied sanctification at a much more intense level than before and I think the writer is expressing a Calvinistic view of sanctification in the line. He is essentially saying that if I will just rest in grace, I will not sin.

In an earlier comment on this post, I mentioned that I thought the author of the poem was speaking about sanctification too passively. I think that is the result of the Calvinistic/Reformed view of sanctification. Today, you hear a lot of talk about “Gospel-centered” sanctification, which is another term for the same thing.

While some of the things this view teaches are true, it is an over-emphasis that creates an error in the thinking of Christians. Sanctification does involve the fruit of the Gospel and my sanctification must start with the Gospel, but there are things I must do as well in order to be sanctified. Some of those things are external and some (the most important) are internal. I have written about this more in detail here. Perhaps you will find my article there helpful. (Don’t miss the articles preceding the one I link to, links are in the first paragraph.)

Maranatha!
Don Johnson
Jer 33.3

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By: KittyF https://oxgoad.ca/2009/03/22/a-question-regarding-a-hymn/comment-page-1/#comment-26379 Wed, 31 Oct 2012 16:43:56 +0000 http://oxgoad.ca/2009/03/22/a-question-regarding-a-hymn/#comment-26379 I’m no expert, but the Bible says that God views us as complete in Jesus, which means we have his Righteousness. couldn’t this have something to do with this verse?

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By: Duncan https://oxgoad.ca/2009/03/22/a-question-regarding-a-hymn/comment-page-1/#comment-3104 Thu, 26 Mar 2009 18:13:56 +0000 http://oxgoad.ca/2009/03/22/a-question-regarding-a-hymn/#comment-3104 Here’s a little more about the song author: This book (both on the page linked and the next page (361) is a start. It doesn’t answer our question, but it helps to place the song in context.

Here’s another that might give some more help. Be sure to look at p. 123 where it notes that the title, at least, comes from Col. 2:10.

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By: ox https://oxgoad.ca/2009/03/22/a-question-regarding-a-hymn/comment-page-1/#comment-3066 Mon, 23 Mar 2009 15:51:45 +0000 http://oxgoad.ca/2009/03/22/a-question-regarding-a-hymn/#comment-3066 Thanks for the comment, Dave. I got a similar e-mail from an anonymous family member. (Not anonymous to me!)

Perhaps you are right, but I have to say that my background growing up is the holiness movement. I became a Baptist at BJU. My holiness friends would really like that verse.

It also seems to speak of sanctification as entirely passive, which seems problematic to me also. Maybe not to others.

Maranatha!
Don Johnson
Jer 33.3

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By: Dave https://oxgoad.ca/2009/03/22/a-question-regarding-a-hymn/comment-page-1/#comment-3064 Mon, 23 Mar 2009 14:10:41 +0000 http://oxgoad.ca/2009/03/22/a-question-regarding-a-hymn/#comment-3064 I think it is just a poetic way of restating Romans 6:14, “For sin shall not be master over you, for you are not under law but under grace.”

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