Comments on: items of interest

By: ox

ox — Wed, 17 Jun 2009 05:01:25 +0000

In reply to Jerry Bouey.

Hi Jerry,

By all means ask! If someone can’t or won’t be willing to answer for what he does, something is seriously wrong!

That is not to say I always get it right, but I hope that I am always ready to answer questions.

Maranatha!
Don Johnson
Jer 33.3

By: Jerry Bouey

Jerry Bouey — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 13:54:11 +0000

Thanks, Bro Don. I have only ever been involved with one specific IFB church since 1998 (have visited about 2 or 3 others – checking out 1 or two where my sister used to live in New Mexico, but those were liberal ones – and one solid one for about 1/2 dozen to a dozen times or so – when travelling back and forth when my Mom was dying), so sometimes it is hard to think outside the box, when you’ve only ever really gotten one perspective. I appreciate you willing to answer my question without thinking I am weird for asking it. God bless.

By: ox

ox — Mon, 15 Jun 2009 16:21:10 +0000

In reply to Jerry Bouey.

Hi Jerry,

No, they didn’t ask our views at all before coming. It wasn’t on their radar, nor is it on ours. My wife’s aunt teaches at Crown and is Assistant Dean of Women, if I remember right. The library at Crown is named after my wife’s uncle. However, the family connection isn’t why we were called, either. I think we were just on someone’s list and they were filling their schedule.

For me, neither versions nor Calvinism are separating issues, as long as the other party isn’t divisive about it (i.e., trying to stir things up in a local church). I’ll repeat something that I said in another thread:

But neither Calvinism nor Versions are separating issues. They aren’t matters of disobedience, on either side (in most cases), and they aren’t matters of heretical error. They are differences of understanding without absolute Biblical proof on either side, so should be dealt with charitably and without rancour.

That’s my view. By the way, the girls trio from Crown is chaperoned by a young married couple from the college. The young fellow preached for us and gave us a fine message. We want to work with our brethren as much as we can without division. Obviously, some things Crown might do we wouldn’t be involved in, but in general we appreciate them and their work for the Lord and are happy to support them where we can.

Maranatha!
Don Johnson
Jer 33.3

By: Jerry Bouey

Jerry Bouey — Mon, 15 Jun 2009 14:07:15 +0000

Not trying to stir something up – just curious: Did this trio from Crown College (or the College itself) contact you ahead of time to find out where you stood doctrinally and on Bible versions? The reason I ask is that Crown College is KJVonly. I figured they would only minister at like-minded churches. I know that these music groups have gone to some Free Presbyterian churches (while Calvinistic, they are still KJVonly).

I guess I am just wondering to what level this College takes its stand of separation. Clarence Sexton has preached at some Free Presbyterian churches and has had Ian Paisley preach at his church or college in the past. Perhaps they agreed to stay away from the Calvinist issues at those times.

I am KJVonly, and it seems to me Calvinism is an issue that I would stay away from just as much (ie. not minister in a church that believed in those doctrines) as I would stay away from ministering in a church that did not stand in the same place on the Bible version issue (due to my convictions in this area).

Perhaps someone might say, singing is not the same thing as preaching, so the separation issues would be different or not apply in the same manner. What are your thoughts here?