OK, well if you ever have a contest with a prize I’ll play again!

I wasn’t totally sure I had it, but the quote gave me a few clues to go on.

1) “pulpit pyrotechnics” suggests an evangelist, not a preacher. Jonathan Edwards himself doesn’t fit this, even though there is some interesting debate about his use of means.

2) “sudden conversion” was a catch phrase during the First and Second Great Awakenings, at least in my reading.

3) If this were about Finney, conservatives were (and many still are) concerned about much more than mere populism. Heresy is a term people use. So a church “degrad[ing] itself by diluting its message and making religion ‘easy’ for the common man” is not a strong enough complaint.

4) I knew that Whitefield disturbed “conservatives” (=formalists) for things like this, so he seemed like a good fit.

I frankly never thought of Spurgeon. I don’t recall anyone associating him with pyrotechnics. By his time populism was already pretty much the norm, so I don’t think anyone minded that he made religion easy for the common man. In the Downgrade controversy I thought he was the conservative.

@Andy: I was afraid that people wouldn’t play because I answered so quickly… I could have been wrong.

@ox (again!): I approved Andy’s comment for you so I could respond to it :)

Isn’t your dear old dad enough of a reward??

But tell me how you guessed Whitefield… I know this is your area of interest, but tell me how you figured it out.

Maranatha!
Dear old dad
Jer 33.3

Now, Keith, don’t jump ahead of me… you are trying to anticipate my point and missing it, as usual. You are about as close to my point without me writing anything as you are when I have already written something, though.

Maranatha!
Don Johnson
Jer 33.3

And Jonathan Edwards and others supported Whitefield. They were the “New Lights” on the “New Side” in the Old Light/New Light Controversy.

The “Conservatives” were the “Old Lights” on the “Old Side.”

Just one more example of how alliances deal with different issues at different times.

Well, didn’t stir up a lot of comments with this one.

And sorry, Roger and Jerry, Duncan is right.

“[his]” would be “Whitefield’s” and the period is the Great Awakening. I’ll post more on this a little bit later, it comes from the very interesting book I have been reading this summer, The Scotch-Irish. I think the author may be secular, he taught sociology at Washington and Lee University. But he has some really interesting insights, I posted an earlier note on it dealing with the Reformation in Scotland. Anyway, this quote is part of a larger section evaluating the state of the church in America preceding and after the Great Awakening.

Maranatha!
Don Johnson
Jer 33.3