Comments on: why not join the CEs? https://oxgoad.ca/2011/05/09/why-not-join-the-ces/ fundamentalism by blunt instrument Mon, 16 May 2011 15:11:21 +0000 hourly 1 By: ox https://oxgoad.ca/2011/05/09/why-not-join-the-ces/comment-page-1/#comment-11068 Mon, 16 May 2011 15:11:21 +0000 http://oxgoad.ca/2011/05/09/why-not-join-the-ces/#comment-11068 In reply to Larry.

Larry, you are ‘dogged’ in your pursuit!

I’m NOT about to name names at this point. I don’t think it is hard to figure this out, however.

Maranatha!
Don Johnson
Jer 33.3

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By: Larry https://oxgoad.ca/2011/05/09/why-not-join-the-ces/comment-page-1/#comment-11067 Mon, 16 May 2011 15:08:46 +0000 http://oxgoad.ca/2011/05/09/why-not-join-the-ces/#comment-11067 Don,

I don’t want to be rude and I am willing to drop it after this, but I am really curious about this.

Can you or anyone else name any self-identified fundamentalist who gives a free pass to SGM?

Would you mind just posting a link or something to one of these blogs where this free pass is given? I am seriously not aware of it and would like to be because that would be seriously problematic for me.

If you can’t, that’s fine. I know you didn’t make the statement, and I don’t expect you to defend someone else’s statement. I was just curious as to who is being talked about.

Admittedly I don’t “participate at” very many blogs. In fact, the only blog comments I have made recently I think were at Kent’s (who is not a self-identified fundamentalist) and yours. In my blogroll there are only ten or so fundamentalist blogs, most of which are very infrequent, and some of which would only loosely be considered “fundamentalist” by some here. So it is entirely possible that I have missed it.

Thanks

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By: ox https://oxgoad.ca/2011/05/09/why-not-join-the-ces/comment-page-1/#comment-11063 Mon, 16 May 2011 13:07:09 +0000 http://oxgoad.ca/2011/05/09/why-not-join-the-ces/#comment-11063 In reply to Larry.

Larry, I see you participating at all the usual circuit of blogs where various self-identified separatists reveal their support for these organizations. If you aren’t aware of who they are, you ought to be.

Maranatha!
Don Johnson
Jer 33.3

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By: Larry https://oxgoad.ca/2011/05/09/why-not-join-the-ces/comment-page-1/#comment-11061 Mon, 16 May 2011 11:28:43 +0000 http://oxgoad.ca/2011/05/09/why-not-join-the-ces/#comment-11061 Thanks Don.

But I am still curious as to *who* that is. I am realizing that I am increasingly disconnected from what it going on outside my little world here, so I don’t know anyone who qualifies as a “self-identified separatist” who also gives SGM a “free pass.”

Who are these who are “enthusiastic supporters of all things T4G and TGC”? Who are these who as “enthusiastically handing out Mahaney’s books and recommending his work unreservedly”?

The reason I ask is because I have seen this charge but never seen anyone identify people who actually do this. It just seems kind of a general and unsupported assertion.

I don’t know how supporting T4G or TGC is the same as giving SGM a free pass. Surely there is room for benefiting from something while also acknowledging that there are some problems, isn’t there?

I know it’s not what your post was about, but someone brought it up so I figured I would ask.

Thanks

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By: ox https://oxgoad.ca/2011/05/09/why-not-join-the-ces/comment-page-1/#comment-11041 Mon, 16 May 2011 00:50:36 +0000 http://oxgoad.ca/2011/05/09/why-not-join-the-ces/#comment-11041 In reply to Larry.

Hi Larry,

Well, I would say that it is the many who claim to be fundamentalists but are enthusiastic supporters of all things T4G and TGC. I would say it is all those who are enthusiastically handing out Mahaney’s books and recommending his work unreservedly. I would say it is those who are clamouring that there is no real difference between the conservative evangelicals and fundamentalists, that the CEs are separatists, really.

But that wasn’t the question I was answering. The question I was answering is, ‘what’s the problem with Conservative Evangelicals and why should we keep our distance from them?’

Maranatha!
Don Johnson
Jer 33.3

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By: Larry https://oxgoad.ca/2011/05/09/why-not-join-the-ces/comment-page-1/#comment-11020 Sun, 15 May 2011 16:16:40 +0000 http://oxgoad.ca/2011/05/09/why-not-join-the-ces/#comment-11020 Who are the self-identified separatists or self-identified fundamentalists that give SGM a pass?

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By: ox https://oxgoad.ca/2011/05/09/why-not-join-the-ces/comment-page-1/#comment-10969 Sat, 14 May 2011 13:24:37 +0000 http://oxgoad.ca/2011/05/09/why-not-join-the-ces/#comment-10969 In reply to d4v34x.

Ah, OK. That makes more sense.

I hope that we might get more people being vocal about these and other concerns. The comments of so many who claim to be fundamentalists are very undiscerning.

Maranatha!
Don Johnson
Jer 33.3

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By: d4v34x https://oxgoad.ca/2011/05/09/why-not-join-the-ces/comment-page-1/#comment-10962 Sat, 14 May 2011 10:42:26 +0000 http://oxgoad.ca/2011/05/09/why-not-join-the-ces/#comment-10962 My bad for ambiguity. I was speaking of some, not all, State-side calvinistics in fundamentalist circles (since the point of the OP is why not join with the CE’s, I figured the ensuing comments referred to those outside CEdom).

I share concerns about all four areas you mention.

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By: ox https://oxgoad.ca/2011/05/09/why-not-join-the-ces/comment-page-1/#comment-10955 Sat, 14 May 2011 02:39:35 +0000 http://oxgoad.ca/2011/05/09/why-not-join-the-ces/#comment-10955 In reply to d4v34x.

Dave, really? Why are they allowed on the T4G platform? Why do they speak at Grace Community Church? The more I read about SGM, the more astonishing it is that they are allowed into the evangelical orbit at all. Their errors are particularly egregious.

Maranatha!
Don Johnson
Jer 33.3

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By: d4v34x https://oxgoad.ca/2011/05/09/why-not-join-the-ces/comment-page-1/#comment-10954 Sat, 14 May 2011 02:33:08 +0000 http://oxgoad.ca/2011/05/09/why-not-join-the-ces/#comment-10954 The State-side calvinist(ic)s do not give a free pass to SGM’s errors, doctrinal or practical, nor do we summarily dismiss them.

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