Comments on: what is the gospel?

By: ox

ox — Fri, 06 Jan 2012 17:22:55 +0000

In reply to Tommy.

Too bad. I couldn’t find the specific article I was thinking of either. I’ll write to them and see if it is still available.

Maranatha!
Don Johnson
Jer 33.3

By: Tommy

Tommy — Fri, 06 Jan 2012 15:37:29 +0000

That article didn’t really seem to touch much on Gospel-centered living and sanctification. I will stay on the look out for yours. Have a good day.

By: ox

ox — Thu, 05 Jan 2012 09:54:16 +0000

In reply to Tommy. Here is one article that touches on it. The other article might not be available on the web any longer. I think it might have appeared in this issue of S&T: Sword & Trowel 2007, No. 1. Don't know if you can still get that one. Maranatha! Don Johnson Jer 33.3

By: Tommy

Tommy — Wed, 04 Jan 2012 19:22:34 +0000

Thanks for the response. I will look for your upcoming articles. Can you direct me to the article by Masters? I looked but could not find it.

By: ox

ox — Tue, 03 Jan 2012 23:05:45 +0000

In reply to Tommy.

The biggest problem I have with the idea of “gospel-centered” sanctification is that it seems too mystical and dependent on mere meditation on the ‘facts of the gospel’ as the means of sanctification. Peter Masters has a good article available at the Metropolitan Tabernacle or Sword and Trowel site critiquing John Piper on this point.

The second problem I have with this approach is it reduces the essential doctrines too narrowly. There are essentials over which we must contend that are not specifically gospel related.

I don’t have time to elaborate more than that right now. You might find some articles here that touch on the issue in more detail, check the categories in the Archives. I’ll probably write more at some point in the future. It is a recurring theme these days.

Maranatha!
Don Johnson
Jer 33.3

By: Tommy

Tommy — Tue, 03 Jan 2012 22:49:04 +0000

Don, I’m curious to hear your view of this “new” approach which focuses so much on the gospel (its not really new). I’m not talking about counseling, just in general. Care to elaborate?

By: d4v34x

d4v34x — Wed, 14 Dec 2011 18:31:12 +0000

Hrm, some of their. Not there. :eyeroll:

By: d4v34x

d4v34x — Wed, 14 Dec 2011 18:30:36 +0000

I have to say having read alot of the secondary sources (i.e. bloggers who like the new Calvinists), some of there rhetoric sounds somewhat quietist/keswick. Unfortunately, I can’t provide links because this was an occassional impression I had a few times over the last year reading this or that.

On the other hand, Andy Naselli, who knows a thing or two about Keswick, wrote (somewhere ) that there are some (many?) similarities between the reformed view of sanctification and Keswick, so perhaps this shouldn’t surprise.

By: ox

ox — Wed, 14 Dec 2011 07:46:19 +0000

In reply to Keith.

Ok, point taken.

Sorry for the delay in posting this. I somehow didn’t notice it in the queue till just now.

Maranatha!
Don Johnson
Jer 33.3

By: Keith

Keith — Sun, 11 Dec 2011 08:29:58 +0000

Try reading “Holiness by Grace”, I think you’ll like the writing/approach, even if you end up not agreeing with the total argument/point.

Keith