Comments on: apostasy

By: Dale Heffernan

Dale Heffernan — Thu, 07 Feb 2013 15:10:49 +0000

Don, thanks for standing firmly and kindly on the Scriptures. Lord bless you for taking all the arrows you have taken lately.

By: ox

ox — Wed, 23 Jan 2013 17:22:57 +0000

In reply to Kent Brandenburg.

Wasn’t so much of a debate, more a snide remark by one of those I was debating on SI, referring to something I said about Northland here. Got me thinking on the topic, though.

Maranatha!
Don Johnson
Jer 33.3

By: Kent Brandenburg

Kent Brandenburg — Wed, 23 Jan 2013 16:02:55 +0000

Don,

I didn’t see the original debate about apostasy, but I just looked at what fundamentalism is at SharperIron, and I can see how that a finer tuned understanding of apostasy would touch a nerve with many. SI says fundamentalists separate from apostasy. How do you do that? When is someone apostatizing? Obviously, if you wait until someone starts himself preaching a plainly (plain to SI folks, which might require a more involved standard of plainness) false gospel, you won’t separate for awhile, or can always claim deniability, because it wasn’t plain yet. If I separate from apostasy and apostasy is in essence no less than the pope, I’ve got a lot of room not to separate. It pretty much means I can claim being a fundamentalist by my own definition without in fact being one. I can say I believe in Jesus, but if He is a jar of peanut butter, I don’t really believe in Him, if you get what I mean.

By: Kent Brandenburg

Kent Brandenburg — Sat, 19 Jan 2013 22:46:55 +0000

You are correct Don. They were presenting a red herring.

By: Brian Ernsberger

Brian Ernsberger — Fri, 18 Jan 2013 19:38:40 +0000

Oh, boy! Don, I bet you were way-laided with such talk about current ministries! I daresay the be-all, end-all verse thrown back you was Matt. 7:1 “Judge not, that ye be not judged.” You’re also a dispensationalist, premillennial, pre-trib rapturist, who just doesn’t get it that the world is not getting worse and worse. Man, the kingdom of God is being ushered in by all these ministries! Heaven on earth is just ahead, that’s the light at the end of the tunnel that we see. (I am speaking facetiously here with a bit of sarcasm tossed in for good measure) The more I read, see, hear some men, the more I realize that we are not talking the same talk. The literal, grammatical hermeneutic that I employ is not compatible with those of a reformed/covenant hermeneutic, we are not talking the same language as we talk the Scriptures. Words may be the same but they have different meanings between us. Much like talking to a Mormon, our words are the same but our respective meanings for those words are radically different.
Thanks for the article. A good study of apostasy and what it’s doing in our current age.