Comments on: Watchwords

By: ox

ox — Sun, 05 May 2013 00:33:07 +0000

Mark, I agree. I saw your comments on SI today. I think those over there who are moving this direction are kidding themselves. As they say, “Denial isn’t just a river in Egypt.”

Maranatha!
Don Johnson
Jer 33.3

By: Mark Smith

Mark Smith — Sat, 04 May 2013 13:23:20 +0000

Don (aka ox),
I went to Guy Conn’s church website and found some Easter service music performances. It was full blown rock band with lights off in the sanctuary, flashing lights on stage, smoke, etc, with a choir added in. I must be naive but that isn’t what I think of when I think “fundamentalist”….but apparently I missed the memo changing things up!

This style is what EVERY charismatic and seeker-sensitive church in the country (that can afford it at least) does for their music time.

By: ox

ox — Sat, 04 May 2013 02:08:51 +0000

In reply to Mark Smith.

Thanks for the comment, Mark.

Yes, that would be a possibility. It could also be easily explained, correct? In any case there are many similar videos from this church available on the web. It is not like what they are doing is a big secret.

Maranatha!
Don Johnson
Jer 33.3

By: Mark Smith

Mark Smith — Fri, 03 May 2013 18:31:46 +0000

Any chance the problem is their copyright license? Churches that sing CCM must buy an annual copyright license to use the lyrics and music of CCM music. Included in the cost is the size of the church and the size of the audience that will hear it. It is one thing to have a license for your congregation, it is another to broadcast on the internet. Most churches that live stream their services do not live stream the worship for this very reason.

Just a thought on why they might have hid the video.

By: Jon Gleason

Jon Gleason — Mon, 29 Apr 2013 12:42:33 +0000

My goodness. How many things are going to be removed / blocked / whatever?

If your conscience is clear, if you really think you are doing the right thing, you don’t have to pull stuff. You be right up front with what you are doing and let the Lord deal with the fallout.

You don’t even WANT support from those who don’t agree with you. Those are the ones who you MOST want to know all the details of what you are doing, because if they feel like you brought them in on false pretenses, you’ll have conflict division, feelings of betrayal, etc.

That’s how you behave when your conscience is clear about what you are doing.

By: ox

ox — Mon, 29 Apr 2013 04:39:58 +0000

In reply to ox.

Just a note, to whom it may concern: I just trashed a comment by someone who gave a first name but a false e-mail address. We don’t post anonymous comments here. Have the integrity and courage to use your real name. Please offer substantive comments as well. If you want to use name-calling and specious arguments, they will be posted, but they will also be pointed out.

Maranatha!
Don Johnson
Jer 33.3

By: ox

ox — Sat, 27 Apr 2013 16:20:23 +0000

In reply to Duncan Johnson.

You’re right, of course. I certainly hope there is a good reason for the change. Hard to imagine what it might be, I don’t think having a video on Vimeo costs anything, no matter how many people download it. What other reason could there be?

And it does seem to follow a pattern.

I am heartily sick of the whole mess.

See you next week.

Maranatha!
Don Johnson
Jer 33.3

By: Duncan Johnson

Duncan Johnson — Sat, 27 Apr 2013 16:16:53 +0000

That really is odd.

Of course, there are all sorts of possible reasons why the video (which was public on Thursday of this week) went private sometime between then and the time of this post, and we can only guess at the motive. We obviously can’t *prove* motives in this case.

But it truly does nothing to alleviate people’s concerns, and smells like poorly implemented PR damage control.

I hope the real reason truly is something more innocent.