{"id":1748,"date":"2010-10-01T13:21:34","date_gmt":"2010-10-01T21:21:34","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/oxgoad.ca\/2010\/10\/01\/this-and-that\/"},"modified":"2010-10-01T13:21:34","modified_gmt":"2010-10-01T21:21:34","slug":"this-and-that","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/oxgoad.ca\/2010\/10\/01\/this-and-that\/","title":{"rendered":"this and that"},"content":{"rendered":"

I\u2019m a little confused by Dave\u2019s latest<\/a>. I think it might be the unspecificity of \u2018this and that\u2019. I\u2019m sort of getting lost the further he goes using these terms. Would it be too much to give some real world examples? (Oops, I said I was hoping to get away from sarcasm!)<\/p>\n

But really, what is Dave trying to say in his post? This is what I am getting:<\/p>\n

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  1. I get the part that Biblical truth is timeless. I think that is what Dave means by \u2018this\u2019.<\/li>\n
  2. I get the part that the way we use the timeless principles to address real life issues is called applications. I think this is what Dave means by \u2018that\u2019.<\/li>\n
  3. As we progress in the discussion of \u2018this\u2019 and \u2018that\u2019, it seems that Dave is saying that applications are relative, dependant on the context of the times. Does that mean that applications change over time? Could we have some examples?<\/li>\n
  4. There appear to be different categories of relationship between \u2018this\u2019 and \u2018that\u2019. <\/li>\n
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    1. First, there is potential for disagreement among Christians because not everyone sees the connection between \u2018this\u2019 and \u2018that\u2019 in the same way. (And as long as we agree on the \u2018this\u2019 we need to give latitude to others on the \u2018that\u2019.)<\/li>\n
    2. Next, there is a possibility that \u2018that\u2019 could lead to a violation of \u2018this\u2019. While we should be concerned about the possibility, as long as we agree on \u2018this\u2019, we should still give latitude over differences in \u2018that\u2019.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n
    3. When \u2018that\u2019 is elevated to the same level as \u2018this\u2019, trouble occurs, unless \u2018that\u2019 equals \u2018this\u2019, but not all agree and as long as \u2018that\u2019 doesn\u2019t equal \u2018this\u2019, we should allow one another latitude in \u2018that\u2019.<\/li>\n
    4. If differences over \u2018that\u2019 lead to questions about motives, we err and do not the truth. Instead, differences over \u2018that\u2019 should result in \u2018open, constructive debate\u2019. (Dialogue, anyone?)<\/li>\n
    5. The key is to start talking about the Scriptures \u2013 the \u2018this\u2019. We\u2019ll get so in harmony over \u2018this\u2019, \u2018that\u2019 will be irrelevant. Your \u2018that\u2019 is different from my \u2018that\u2019? No problem, bro, we\u2019re in sync on \u2018this\u2019, fill your boots!<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n

      Is \u2018that\u2019 all clear? Maybe I should have said, is \u2018this\u2019 all clear? What is \u2018this\u2019, anyway? Should we be in agreement about \u2018this\u2019? How do I know? I could have been talking about \u2018that\u2019 all along while someone else is talking about \u2018this\u2019.<\/p>\n

      \u2018This\u2019 is extremely confusing. (But be careful how you explain it to me, you wouldn\u2019t want to get into the motives thing, you know.)<\/p>\n

      \"don_sig2\" <\/p>\n

      P.S. Please take this in a light-hearted spirit. I think I get what Dave is saying, but, wow, trying to wade through all the \u2018this\u2019es and \u2018that\u2019s is getting to me!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

      I\u2019m a little confused by Dave\u2019s latest. I think it might be the unspecificity of \u2018this and that\u2019. I\u2019m sort of getting lost the further he goes using these terms. Would it be too much to give some real world examples? (Oops, I said I was hoping to get away from sarcasm!) But really, what […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_is_tweetstorm":false,"jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true},"categories":[36],"tags":[],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p2fYWj-sc","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/oxgoad.ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1748"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/oxgoad.ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/oxgoad.ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/oxgoad.ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/oxgoad.ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1748"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/oxgoad.ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1748\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/oxgoad.ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1748"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/oxgoad.ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1748"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/oxgoad.ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1748"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}