{"id":668,"date":"2008-03-26T23:43:41","date_gmt":"2008-03-27T07:43:41","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/oxgoad.ca\/2008\/03\/26\/two-random-quotes-from-ch-class\/"},"modified":"2008-03-26T23:48:45","modified_gmt":"2008-03-27T07:48:45","slug":"two-random-quotes-from-ch-class","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/oxgoad.ca\/2008\/03\/26\/two-random-quotes-from-ch-class\/","title":{"rendered":"two random quotes from CH class"},"content":{"rendered":"

Here are two quotes from my 1980 Church History class. The section I am dealing with in recent posts are basically preliminary to a discussion of new evangelicalism vs. fundamentalism. Here are the quotes:<\/p>\n

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A schismatic spirit is one that insists upon total agreement on non-essentials as well as on the essentials.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

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Fundamentalist creeds do not include denominational distinctives.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

Is there any correlation between these two ideas?<\/p>\n

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Obviously within denominational efforts, denominational distinctives will be proclaimed. Some will not cooperate outside such distinctives. Would that be schismatic? I don’t think so, as I would find only very limited opportunity for cooperative effort beyond the scope of Baptist distinctives. [Not that my practice is the standard!]<\/p>\n

At the same time, I recognize that there are faithful fundamentalist brethren who do not hold to Baptist distinctives. My distinctives don’t limit my fellowship as much as they do my cooperative energy. I’m not going to be funding Presbyterian missions as a Baptist, although I may rejoice to hear of souls saved through the ministry of my Presbyterian friends (and family members!).<\/p>\n

With that example, I don’t think a refusal of cooperation is schism in every case. There is a difference between cooperation and fellowship. Schism is a refusal of even fellowship over non-essential doctrines — a refusal to bid a brother ‘Godspeed’ because he doesn’t hold to exactly the same standards in the same way I do, for example. It is almost a denial of standing as a Christian: ‘you’re not a Christian because you use a different version than me.’ On the other hand, I might not cooperate with another Christian because of the version(s) he uses, but that is not the same as schism – we can still have some fellowship because we are both Christians.<\/p>\n

Am I making any sense, or am I up too late?<\/p>\n

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Here are two quotes from my 1980 Church History class. The section I am dealing with in recent posts are basically preliminary to a discussion of new evangelicalism vs. fundamentalism. Here are the quotes: A schismatic spirit is one that insists upon total agreement on non-essentials as well as on the essentials. and Fundamentalist creeds […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_is_tweetstorm":false,"jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true},"categories":[78,44],"tags":[],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p2fYWj-aM","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/oxgoad.ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/668"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/oxgoad.ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/oxgoad.ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/oxgoad.ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/oxgoad.ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=668"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/oxgoad.ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/668\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/oxgoad.ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=668"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/oxgoad.ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=668"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/oxgoad.ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=668"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}